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Language debaters

I think it’s funny how each language all the way from html to c++ and yes ruby. Are all regarded as some higher playing field for your status as a programmer. From a community standpoint. No different than English to French to German to Spanish. Designated for one thing. “To communicate. “ In the standard of programming nonetheless to a computer. To serve as a tool. No one tool works the same but often are all needed to get the exact same task done with with all related circumstances . So why the hierarchy. You don’t see many general contractors debating over one being the master of wrench’s while the other is claiming to be a table saw perfectionist and wouldn’t dare touch a wrench. You either no how to yield it, or need to yield it or have no use for it at that given point in time.

24th May 2019, 12:08 PM
Mike Leonard
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For me as long as i reach my objective i am happy. The language does not matter.
24th May 2019, 12:18 PM
Jason Mackjoo
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So the condition... Python is not good and Python is love and Python is life ... evaluates as True?
24th May 2019, 1:58 PM
HonFu
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AgentSmith, oh noooo, we are posting WET, not DRY as we should! All this overhead! 😂 Okay, but if we're all saying the same, why does this post even exist? I mean, except beginners, is anybody saying stuff like 'Python is better than Java'? Rather rare, I would hope.
24th May 2019, 1:05 PM
HonFu
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I still think punch cards are the best because the code is so tangible or at least the white space is.
25th May 2019, 1:41 AM
Sonic
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thats what i like to hear. keep it up soldier
24th May 2019, 12:31 PM
Mike Leonard
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Languages are different and don't do the same job equally well. Python is easy to write, but runs slow. C is harder to write but runs fast. (Simple example.) So it's sort of necessary to compare them, isn't it? Not in an absolute way, but related to certain jobs.
24th May 2019, 12:35 PM
HonFu
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What... Python is not... good? (Bring it on, deliver another entertaining rant!)
24th May 2019, 1:38 PM
HonFu
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HonFu 😂😂😂😂😅 Meanwhile Mikey Blue, this would be a better post for your personal feed instead of the Q&A. Cheers. https://www.sololearn.com/discuss/1316935/?ref=app
24th May 2019, 2:06 PM
Tony
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I have studied a lot of stuff that's valuable personally but didn't help me a lot making a living: Music, literature, several languages... Later, I translated a few books, taught beginners the piano, played harp and piano at weddings, restaurants or historic dances and simultaneously worked part-time in jobs a dog could do just as well because... well, that's arts for you. ;-) That actually sounds like fun, although I'd have no idea where to start. Personally, I enjoyed classical RPGs like the early Final Fantasys the most.
24th May 2019, 3:24 PM
HonFu
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@ HonFu Nice! Music is my other passion. lol Computers just won out in the long run. Sadly, I haven't played piano since I was in my early teen years though, but I did continue with music in my spare time with bass, guitar and clarinet. Was hoping to get back into piano sooner or later, as well as learning how to play the violin. As for the game, let's create a classical RPG then! I'm a huge fan of those as well, especially since that's what I grew up to. I'm more than happy to get you pointed in the right direction with where to start, so no worries about that. We can discuss all the specifics elsewhere. Do you have discord already?
24th May 2019, 3:31 PM
AgentSmith
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@HonFu I think that's the point he is making also. :D "to serve as a tool. No one tool works the same but often are all needed to get the exact same task done with all related circumstances" Basically, I think the point is that they're all tools on your tool belt and each may be better/worse what for the task you're facing at that moment. So is a chainsaw better than a hammer? It just depends on what you're doing at that moment. If you're chopping down a tree, use your chainsaw. If you're building a house, use your hammer. Each is great in their own relative ways and it's better to have as many tools available to you than needing a tool and not have it. They're all equal in the aspect that they're just tools to accomplish tasks and are better/worse depending upon your relative circumstance, so there is no true hierarchy. You're both pretty much saying the same thing, and now I'm saying the same thing with you all, but we each said it differently. lol
24th May 2019, 1:02 PM
AgentSmith
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@ HonFu lolol :D To be honest, I don't know why most people complain about half the things that they complain about, especially not in a subpar Q&A for international beginners of programming. It's like showing up to an elementary school, slapping books out of kids hands and calling them stupid. lol I just show up because I get bored while I'm at work and not enough posts to respond to. :D So I entertain the complaints of others and then force other people to keep talking because that's just the kind of shitty person I am, doesn't even matter if I agree or not sometimes because often my opinion is actually neutral on petty matters. PS - I don't think anyone is dumb enough to think Python is good. Don't even joke about that. :D
24th May 2019, 1:33 PM
AgentSmith
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@ HonFu 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 😱 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 🐍 Uhhh uhhh, what I mean to say, uhhh... Python is love, Python is life!!
24th May 2019, 1:56 PM
AgentSmith
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@ HonFu Before this spam thread and our fun comes to an end, what is "your thing?" As we talked about before, I'm more into the gaming / automation / business intel stuff, but what is your area of focus? As a web user, I can't look at feeds, notifications or send messages privately, so this my only chance to actually talk to you on a more serious level. lol
24th May 2019, 2:39 PM
AgentSmith
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AgentSmith, your code snippet should enter Zen Of Python. I have no idea, really. As a teenager I wanted to become a video game composer. Didn't know how to tackle it, forgot about it altogether, started to code out of a whim 25 years later.
24th May 2019, 2:54 PM
HonFu
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@ HonFu Nope. a = "Python is not good!" b = "Python is love, Python is life!" if a or b: print("They're both true.")
24th May 2019, 2:07 PM
AgentSmith
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@ HonFu Ah okay, gotcha. If you don't mind me asking, what did you end up doing for the 25 years prior to getting into programming? Also, have any interest in video games at this point? Although I'm working on some projects to propel my career in it, I always liked doing it just for fun as a hobby I was passionate about. I wouldn't mind starting a project with you while you learned all of it, so there wouldn't be any pressure about deadlines or already knowing how to do it. I'm down for any genre you find fun. Just let me know and we can sync up on Discord or email.
24th May 2019, 3:12 PM
AgentSmith
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@ HonFu lol Forgot to mention, that's funny about the "Zen of Python" and I agree. :D I already knew when I made the joke about Python that many wouldn't get it because they're Python fanboys, but glad you have the humor to entertain my dry sense of humor. I've used Python since the Python 1 in the 90s, so although I don't prefer it, I'm not hating on it. :D If you happen to see this, if you're wanting to do the game together, let me know so we can sync up. I promise I'm usually more "serious" than I am goofy, but I am who I am and so I try not to suppress that. I'm in my 30s tho, so I can be as serious as I need to be in a given moment. ;)
27th May 2019, 1:31 AM
AgentSmith
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Thank you all for the interesting answers. im working on a selenium automation project in regards to a particular case study as to why cyber security is so important. Some of these answers here were spot on as predicted. some typical as usual. alot of the same jargon used in every day atricles and posts. All in all the language and how its used or idealized if not romanticized is not the question nor the answer, but one of many blind convictions to justify the irrelevance of the debate itself.
27th May 2019, 4:09 PM
Mike Leonard
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