[SOLVED] Mystery solved ? "smaznet" is actually more than one person using the account.

Question

Does this qualify for reporting?

https://www.sololearn.com/discuss/508308/?ref=app

Answer 1

What if my brother without any knowledges about programming challenge me for 200/300 times?

Is it considered as "cheat"... ? The difference is maybe that on the other side there is a human rather than a single person.

We are able to contradict ouselves in many possible ways, i remember when i joined SL i had more than one account (just 5/6XP earned, but okay), then i understood through a thread here that Sololearn itself considers the multiple accounts as a way to cheat.

What i mean is that i prefer always leave the decision to Sololearn's administrators, likestorm and other ways to get more XPs are never reported by anyone, this is the reason why i try to be as fair as possible... if i did not follow the "Content Creation Guidelines" there should be many more things to report, many more way to "damage the experience".

Does this qualyfing for reporting?

In my opinion yes, as many more things never reported here, best thing to do is report and left the choice to SL, i want just to remember that report one account does not mean anything if Sololearn considers that account valid, and as far as i know the only measure taken was against the fake accounts.

Hope you'll get my point despite my english, try to justify me, i'm coding from 3h. :3

Answer 2

There are quite a number of things to be considered before coming to a conclusion on the legitimacy of this issue.

Note: Multiple accounts created by a single person to farm XP through challenges is considered foul play, because it reduces the effort of getting XP for oneself, and is unfair towards other users. That said :

• Is it unfair towards other users if we have a specific account in which three users work together to farm XP? Does it put other users at disadvantage? If yes, then how so?

• Putting yourself in the shoes of a user who has been active in challenges for the past few days, what do you feel upon knowing this?

• Putting yourself in the shoes of one of the users utilizing the joint account, what do you feel about your accomplishments? Do you feel righteous?

Although we have a mod team and can certainly rely on SL to give us a definite answer, I believe that the results of an open poll would reflect the right course of action which should be taken.

Answer 3

@Karl, why you're not mod.. ? :/

Anyway this clarifies almost everything, thank you for share! ;)

Answer 4

One more point to place on the round table:

• If such is deemed to be legitimate, it should be legitimate for all cases: Is it OK to have half the entire community to share an account and reach the XP limit in no time?

Answer 5

Sorry Nikolay but use of a bot IS against the rules :

https://www.sololearn.com/Privacy-Policy/

Fair Play Policy

SoloLearn is committed to providing a Fair Play learning environment in which all individuals are treated with dignity and respect. All participants' experiences should be positive; all participants should have the opportunity to contribute; and all participants should experience success. Our programs encourage participants to learn code in the most fun and effective way.

Keep learning fun - it’s why we do it!

1. Gaining an unfair advantage is not allowed

We are committed to immediately taking all reasonable measures to prevent anything that either diminishes SoloLearn community members' learning gains or fun, or that gives one member an unfair advantage over another.

No matter how a member gains an unfair advantage – a bug, an external tool, or multiple account abuse – each case will be investigated. Gaining an unfair advantage results in a temporary or permanent account ban.

2. Code for Challenge Players
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I will play by the rules and in the spirit of the game.I will respect my opponents.I will do my best to be a true team player.I will remember that winning isn’t everything, and that having fun, improving skills, making friends and doing my best are also important goals.I will acknowledge all good plays/performances, including those of my opponents.

Answer 6

Is it by the rules - probably, as SL never cared to create and publish Rules....
Is it fair - absolutely not.

Same thing like if I write a bot to harvest XP for me:
Is it by the rules - Yes.
Is it fair - not.

:D :D :D

Answer 7

Ekansh...

He did the same some hours ago, it is not a coincidence. :3

https://www.sololearn.com/discuss/517401/?ref=app

Answer 8

@Serena he/they have been blocked by SoloLearn

Answer 9

I personally think it''s a huge waste of effort for accomplishing nothing worthwhile, but whatever floats your boat - as they say. I think it's also somewhat unfair for others who use their account in a normal way. Why not use 3 different accounts, instead of 1 for 3 or more?

Answer 10

@hatsy.......what if we create two accounts and divide the whole community into two i.e. 2.6 million in each group.each group will handle a single account.....
one group would consist of all platinum and gold while the other group the rest.
its sure that the 1st group will win most of the challenges......
if each user challenges once a day and even they do it a draw i.e. 5xp the account would have 5*2.6 million in 1 day........
it will surely be sololearn server's nightmare

Answer 11

For the record, there will be people who take your words our of context and think this is all about XP. As far as I am concerned, "this is just a game, stop whining" does not warrant foul play. I have banned more users with aimbot and wallhack plugins than I can remember few years back in another community.
Quoting someone back there: If you can't even follow rules on a game, I don't expect much from you IRL.

Answer 12

@Mubashir Ahmed 😃, but then we can be a team of bots 😂😂😂

Answer 13

Thanks for quoting the SoloLearn Fair Play Policy @Karl. To have reread the written content, it resolved some of my inner conflict.

Smaznet will now have to appeal through the support email.

Answer 14

well..., I think smaznet has just been banned, so there is your official answer 😉

Answer 15

@Rae - depending on how much time you have to spare... For me 200 per day is what one can keep doing in a long turn. Otherwise 500 per day can be achieved, but that is killing yourself and you can do it only once 😃

Answer 16

*I* don't care about XP, but some do. It's their right to want XP and feel some kind of reward for what they have done - and when others cheat well they have a right also to have some kind of justice.

Answer 17

@Karl T. - if I make the bot in playground and run it from there it will be an internal tool using only one account and technically within the rules 😂😂😂

Answer 18

Wow. I still wonder is it a team/group of people or a cool bot. I think it's second, because too many people needed to achieve such results anyway. So that bot is nice and cool (but unfair, surely, no need to say it). But I think creator used a base (database) of answers to questions that was solved by him(self) then.(And there more interesting ways like using a neuronetworks, but it's too complicated for this task I think). I'm wondering how to get question from sololearn app? Is it a kind of app hack or is it a recognition of a screen content (cognitive technologies)? I think there are modules/libraries for the task these days, right? Some weeks ago I wanted (to make) a scraper to calculate/find out some statistics of challenges (to investigate cheatings too) but left/dropped that idea for some reasons (for example, sololearn is not showing results/challenges older than 2 month in activity feed of other users; and I wasn't sure if SL team wouldn't block/ban me for increasing load at their server(s)).

Answer 19

@Maya The expirience is nice (if someone doesn't mind wrong ways... that leads to bad when getting used to it and going too far that way). But really it's not too hard to find challenges for youself with same learning experience that is not connected to cheating. Or even against it, i.e. analyzing statistics [is it qualified as Big Data already? ☺] of challenges, connections, IP's, fingerprints [ways of travelling through the app, reactions timings, and so on] to calculate and investigate possibilities of "unwanted behavior"...
@Dustin Hammack I think one captchas in a challenge (or after 5-10 challenges in a day and one more after each dozen in a week...) is something worth discussing. But 2 in each challenge is absolutely Too Much.

Answer 20

@Mubashir - the activity feed is not very informative as it shows that one has completed a challenge at the time when his opponent replies. Best is to always re-match people who challenge you or those that return your challenges.
@Maya - to satisfy someone's greatness complex 😉