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I am still here, too, but I find it hard to contribute. What drove me (many times) away from this platform, I suppose, were largely its users. Although I did not support all changes introduced to the app over time. But particularly the discuss section was increasingly filling with nonsense questions, not even intelligeable questions, do-my-homework questions, stolen answers, repeated answers, today AI generated answers, ungrateful OPs... I felt surrounded by idiot kids who never even bothered to try to think and solve a problem let alone to actually learn to code. Hence, there was nothing here for me to contribute. And that core problem does not seem to have changed.
3rd Dec 2024, 12:45 AM
Ani Jona šŸ•Š
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SoloLearn caters to beginners. There are not any advanced courses so it's harder for us "pros" to stick around. Those of us that do stick around do so mainly to help others. But there are quite a few of us here. Maybe not like it used to be. But ask a harder programming question and you'll see responses. There are some brilliant folks around here.
2nd Dec 2024, 10:49 PM
Jerry Hobby
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Spoony Bard there are still several of us professionals and veteran user here just not as many as there use to be. My drive on xp was a motivator for the community in general as well as my ongoing streak. I also showed while playing challenges, answering questions and so on that coding was my driver. Doing the courses were more of a quick refresher for the languages being taught at the time.
3rd Dec 2024, 12:20 AM
BroFar
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and maybe the assumption is the one rating everyone else is the best... flaming people without provocation isn't good public behavior we're not here to judge people. And there are better things to do than talk sh*t about other people and spread dissonance.
3rd Dec 2024, 3:27 PM
Bob_Li
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Constructive feedback yes, peer to peer ... Do you like it ... (yes) if not constructive feedback as to why or what could've been better ... but keep in mind that the user may not have as much experience or maybe hadn't thought of the method your experience brings to the table.
3rd Dec 2024, 4:37 PM
BroFar
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Who do you think Prometheus was learning from dating back to 2017 ?
3rd Dec 2024, 2:52 PM
BroFar
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Ok, that's a healthy attitude. But the key is how you present your ideas and communicate with people. Try not to impose your opinion or stand at a position of authority. It's a free world and It's hard to build a discussion if you start with a slap. Respect is always a good opening move. Don't come in with guns blazing. We're all strangers here, from different backgrounds and circumstances. Reactions, positive or negative, should be toned down or it might come across as brash or abrasive. Say you come across a bad code and start flaming it. Wouldn't it be unfortunate if you caused a probably great coder that's just starting out to quit coding? Feedback and reactions should be constructive. Just saying something is bad is never helpful. what I'm saying is being a good person is more important than being a good programmer.
3rd Dec 2024, 4:38 PM
Bob_Li
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Spoony Bard how did I jump in on an open forum discussion ? AND all I said was ... "Spoony Bard there are still several of us professionals and veteran user here just not as many as there use to be. My drive on xp was a motivator for the community in general as well as my ongoing streak. I also showed while playing challenges, answering questions and so on that coding was my driver. Doing the courses were more of a quick refresher for the languages being taught at the time." Where did your need to ... nvm ... Anyway, you don't know me. David Carrol BTW is one of my best friends and we've known each other personally and professionally over two decades
4th Dec 2024, 4:39 AM
BroFar
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Spoony Bard is there some reason you are targeting me ? This is the second time.
3rd Dec 2024, 2:26 PM
BroFar
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Don't judge. There are things to be learned from bad codes....
3rd Dec 2024, 3:44 PM
Bob_Li
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Back to your original question, I don't think ChatGPT killed the community, but the community itself did. Interestingly, your replies demonstrate how a single member can fire it all up. I don't know what your interest is. Maybe to engage a serious discussion about complex algorithms, do some advance projects? There is an old saying in Chinese: Same kind of rice raises up hundreds kinds of people. In here, SL is the rice, members are the people, and each member is a different individual, no matter he is a pro or not. Even a pro cannot master all the skills. A pro can specialize in one area but lack in another. Therefore, there is no point to say who is not as good as another. And more importantly, conversation skill and openness are more important. Since your profile is relatively new, yet you know many things about the pass, let me assuming you left SL for a while and come back recently. Let me ask you a question: What drove you to left SL in the first place? Would it be the answer you are looking for?
4th Dec 2024, 2:49 AM
Wong Hei Ming
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I doubt they will let it die as there is too much at stake but there will most likely be a morphosis into something more linear where one will begin a true roadmap and progress. But as far as user to user it may become more user to AI help ... I really don't have a crystal ball or a clear explanation.
4th Dec 2024, 6:17 AM
BroFar
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Unfortunately Spoony Bard The stereotype of coders being anti-social is a common one, but it's not entirely accurate. While some coders may prefer to work alone and may not be the most outgoing people, many are quite social and enjoy interacting with others. And if you are working with a team of coders / developers social rules still apply, as well sensitivities. It's not all problem solving or IQ it's also a balance of EQ. AI has neither ..
4th Dec 2024, 7:10 AM
BroFar
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Spoony Bard Some of them were frustrated about not getting credited for a draw anymore in a challenge. There might have been other reasons for a few coders to leave, but there was a huge discussion about that change in the XP system, and after that change, they left and deleted their account.
3rd Dec 2024, 12:24 AM
Jan
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Many reasons why people left: - Courses being removed by Sololearn and then focusing more on AI courses. - The replacement of Moderators with paid moderators. - Unclear, off-topic questions in Q&A. - Addition of unnecessary stuffs likes "lives" and "bits". - Never added support for languages like typescript or rust. Even the non web codes compilers have a lot of limitations (for example you can't import external libraries in node, go etc.) Apart from this codes have limited time to execute which seems to be lesser than 3s(way too low?). Not a suprise that web codes get all the attention while non web codes are barely seen. - The XP system rework as pointed out but this mainly pushed away stormers like JOY and Prometheus and a few others. - Stalkers or perverted people who keep DMing girls or minors. These are some of the issues.
3rd Dec 2024, 7:53 AM
Naryani Priya
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Agree with Bob_Li , we learn a lot from bad codes too or learn step by step. You don't go from beginner to proficient in a single day. It takes time and practice. Also learning is the main motto here.
3rd Dec 2024, 5:01 PM
Naryani Priya
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"I like Prometheus as his codes were much better than....BroFar." That's not a fact, that's an opinion and an opinion that's aim is to belittle. You can praise people without trying to bring down others. The comment was completely unneeded. I would also like to point out that it is ironic that you ask where are "the grown ups" that can take critism but you have gotten well thought out critique and counsel by several people in this thread but you are deciding to dismiss them. If you're trying to be a troll, remember that you are contributing to your own question about the community destroying itself. Why would good coders and professionals want to be around someone like that?
3rd Dec 2024, 6:40 PM
Justice
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I can totally understand that point šŸ¤” I had a similar experience early on when I "dared" point out and correct a mistake a then very popular member made. I received a total of one uptick on my reply, and it was by said member whose response soared into the 20ies in likes. It was... sobering, to say the least. I had successless attempts with my posts that aimed at trying to change that behaviour. People very well responded "you are right" and "absolutely true", but nothing changed. Yes, this is toxic and can be a drive to leave as it has been for me as well, I admit.
4th Dec 2024, 3:34 AM
Ani Jona šŸ•Š
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The world is a big place. Everything is transient. Making friends is better than creating enemies. And I quit trying to change the world a long time ago.
4th Dec 2024, 3:48 AM
Bob_Li
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Spoony Bard It was because of the XP, because they were not able to earn the same amount of XP in challenges anymore as they were use to.
2nd Dec 2024, 11:52 PM
Jan
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