What do you think about Kotlin and Swift for the future?

Question

I heard from a programmer, Stefan Mischook, that Kotlin & Swift might fail in the future due to being native languages for an operating system. He also says that it might fail due to frameworks like Google's Flutter, only if it meets the expectations.

So, I want to hear from you, what do you think about his point of view and what will happen to these incredible languages in the future? ((Please do not send him any hate. 😊))

Edit: All opinions/answers are appreciated!

Answer 1

「ＨＡＰＰＹ ＴＯ ＨＥＬＰ」 I had similar thoughts as well, maybe it will disappear into the void. Like you said, Kotlin is new and cool, and so is Swift (new-ish,) but unfortunately I have to say "Don't fix what isn't broken!" Don't get me wrong, I love Kotlin and Swift, but maybe...it might fade out because if I already work with Java, C, C++, ect. why write it again in a new language if it's already compatible?

Thank you for your answer!

Answer 2

GODOFPC I agree, I don't want them to fade away. As I see it, there are many advantages of using Kotlin. Although, there wasn't anything broken from the beginning. To me it seems like Java was already an answer, but for beginners, I could see why Kotlin might survive. I like Kotlin a lot! It's biggest challenge according to Stefan is: "Java does the job just fine...frameworks like Google's Flutter may kill it." A comment also said: "They won't be teaching and testing Kotlin in college, instead they'd teach & testing things like Java basics." (Sum up of what they said.)

Thanks for your answer!

Just want to get sort of a discussion started. 😊

Answer 3

Uni I find them useful as well, the last thing he said was that he will not invest in Swift and Kotlin as in a professional manner... For us, the learners, we have to make the decision while still listening to the experienced and learning from them. So, it's still hard to say but, there still is a chance. While we are on the subject, I thought about something else I forgot to mention. He said that Swift would crash faster than Ruby would. As I see it, Ruby has still maintained its stable popularity.

Answer 4

That is a good way of looking at it, there is an opportunity for it to work, but it still has to go up against these new frameworks and older languages! The future looks bright for them? I sure hope so! ((He said the same thing about Ruby, and while Ruby might not be extremely popular, it is still a well, surviving language.)) So there are some things I see that might destroy that opportunity for Swift and Kotlin, hopefully not, I sure hope they exceed our expectations. Although, a lot of views from people are like: "Why fix something that isn't broken?"
Don't get me wrong, I like both of the languages, it's just that it has a ton of competition.

TRevor Hodges & Uni Thanks for your answers! 👍😊

Answer 5

You're welcome ✰✮ Seeing Stars ✮✰ 😆😉👍✌
As about Ruby, I am sooo sooo sooo glad that it is still alive, and I too see the same future for Kotlin and Swift: let's say that they don't have such a bright future, but at least I'm sure that both will at least survive just like Ruby (and I honestly hope these 3 programming languages won't fail because I like them soo much and I find them sooo useful....).

Answer 6

✰✮ Seeing Stars ✮✰ you're right!👍✌ As for Ruby, sadly, almost the only thing that keeps it alive is ROR, and thanks to this it will still be a round for a while. As for Swift and Kotlin, I just gave my opinion but honestly I don't really know what will happen with them, guess only time will tell 😉😉

Answer 7

I honestly don't think they will fail because people will probably see in Kotlin an easier alternative to Java (I do and there are a lot of people who left Java for Kotlin, moreover, both work smoothly together) and at least the Android "industry" will grow, and Kotlin in the same time with it (even though you can use Kotlin for so much more than just Android).
As for Swift, I talked with one of my teachers about it once, and he told me that he saw a bright future for it, and that it is an relatively easy to learn/handle language with the "power" of C++ . He also told me that even though it is mainly used for IOS, other kind of apps can be made with it. So I don't think this two programming languages will fail.

Answer 8

I dont want them to fade away😣
Sometimes we have to upgrade like

C++ -> Python (Short code, less error, fast work, Great for maintain big apps and For speed u can compile python into cpython ;))

Java -> Kotlin(Short code, Less Error, Fast work )

Objective C -> Swift (As the name suggests)

I think companies should understand and give place to new lang....

Dunno About swift It might fade away
But Kotlin isn't Native For Android u can make Desktop App with it (Runs with JVM) Its like someone Upgraded Java So it will get value in future initially python had no value but now its second most demanded lang

Answer 9

Who knows at this point? It feels like maybe the frameworks are too good to be true...maybe they will survive, they are great languages that are easy for beginners to learn, unlike Java. (No offense, I like Java!) 👍😀

Answer 10

Uni True👍

Answer 11

I think we should discuss
again 10 years later ^_^

(if we can : |)

Answer 12

✰✮ Seeing Stars ✮✰
Yes I see 😲
My school will also teach me C++not python(New School Class XI😄)

and
YW 😊😊

Answer 13

don't know

Answer 14

I think any language that only works in just a few platforms will never survive. Language has to be far reaching and have the ability to adapt to new systems.

Answer 15

Swift seems to have a pretty bright future.

Answer 16

kotlin has future

Answer 17

swift has a long way to arrive to its goal, so wait for a time that i don't know how much...!

;)

Answer 18

kotlin might be more futurous

Answer 19

Kotlin is the programming language devloped by google, I think that itself defines its future. Moreover all the future android versions will be coded in Kotlin so in almost 10 years there will be no java for android I guess. And for Swift if you want to develop any ios app than that is the basic way so pretty much useful. Both have bright future

Answer 20

I wonder why swift should crash in the future because In my point of view is one of the pretty language I found fun with